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$2099 Complete Bike - SAVA F20 Hawkeye Review
bit.ly/SAVAf20 - The SAVA F20 Nighthawk. Use discount code 'ChinaCycling100" for an extra $100 discount - I get *zero* commission...so... you do you. :)
My honest thoughts on the Sava F20. An all-round full carbon road bike with fully internal cable routing and 12 speed Shimano 105 all for around $2000. Is it worth it?
Timecodes
00:00 Intro
00:56 Who are SAVA?
01:45 SAVA F20 Hawkeye
02:46 Transparency & Disclaimer
03:36 The Specs
08:24 Ride Feel
10:07 Things I like
12:32 Things I don't like
13:40 Shipping & Logistics
15:05 Summary
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The BEST Chinese Wheels vs The BEST Western Wheels: CRW5060 Vs Roval Rapide CLX II in-depth analysis
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bit.ly/CRWvsRAPIDE - The full web article bit.ly/CRWCS5060 - CRW CS5060 at PandaPodium.cc bit.ly/RovalRapideCLXii - Roval Rapide CLX II at Specialzied.com In this video we put 'the best' Western wheels against 'the best' Chinese wheels in a face-to-face shootout. We dive down into all the details, testing the weights, the stiffness and even the aero performance of both wheels. 00:00 Intro 01:12...
SHANGHAI BIKE SHOW - WHEELY SPECIAL EDITION
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pandapodium.cc - For all the best Asian bike parts. The shanghai bike show was overflowing with wheels and wheel tech, so I saved some of it up for this dedicated wheel video. 00:00 Intro 00:18 ODIN Vsprint Supersonic 01:09 H-WORKS Hubs 02:26 KOMKAS Gold Wheels 02:48 KOMKAS .... somethings 02:48 KOMKAS Evo MAX 03:18: SCOM Disc Wheels 04:02 SCOM Ultra Wheels 05:00 CRW Craft Racing Works 06:30 Up...
SHANGHAI BIKE SHOW: The People Behind the Brands
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pandapodium.cc - #1 source of Asian bike parts! I decided to go ask a few of the people behind the brands at the Shanghai bike show a few questions. Many thanks to those who agreed to be interviewed. Allen - International Sales Director @ Pardus Bikes Leo - Founder & Boss @sekabikes3106 Bryan - Found & Boss @ OVERFAST YPJ - Boss @ZUATU Sam - VP of Global Sales @MageneOfficial Roman - Product Di...
SHANGHAI BIKE SHOW DAY 4: New Dreammaker, BIGROCK, RideNow Recycling, and BROSS Zenith
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pandapodium.cc - The chaos continues at the Shanghai Bike Show! 00:00 Intro 00:10 Incolor Intropy Frame 00:50 NEW Sava Dreammaker 2.0 01:50 SAVA Hawkeye 02:29 BIGROCK Sohteah Climbing Bike 02:52 BIGROCK Aero Frame 03:30 Handpainted BIGROCK 04:28 BIGROCK Gravel Frame 04:55 What is Panda Podium? 05:10 OG-EVKIN MTB 05:52 Ridenow Recycling TPU Tubes 06:40 Ridenow Foam Inserts 07:30 SANTIC Shoes 08:...
SHANGHAI BIKE SHOW DAY 3: New Tavelo Frame, Crazy Wheel Tech, and $300 bikes...
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pandapodium.cc - Don't miss our first-brithday sale! 00:00 Intro 00:22 Tavelo Arow 02:30 Pertual Sharp 04:30 Pertual Triathlon Wheels 05:50 Pertual Concept Wheel 07:20 PandaPodium.cc 07:42 LYKOS Bikes 08:35 JAVA Bikes 10:25 ELVES Amanyar 11:00 CYBREI 12:00 ZUATU Carbon Shoes 12:55 Outro
SHANGHAI BIKE SHOW DAY 2: Aero is back, MTB Gear, and $3500 wheels...
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pandapodium.cc - For all your quality Asian bike parts. Day Two!! The madness continues. Too tired to right a description... just watch the video! 00:00 Intro 00:26 QUICK PRO AR:One 01:58 QUICK PRO SR:One 02:42 QUICK PRO TT:One 03:18 Onirii Aero 04:22 Onirii Flashing 04:51 Onirii Pedals & Saddles 05:31 VORTEX Wheels 08:05 L-TWOO TT eRX 08:51 L-TWOO Blue2 09:40 L-TWOO FX Internal Hub 10:22 Panda...
SHANGHAI BIKE SHOW DAY 1: Magene Groupset, 500g Frames, Superlight wheels....
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pandapodium.cc - For all your Asian bike parts Day one of the Shanghai bike show, and this year's show is PACKED with interesting tech and gear. We barely scratched the surface today, but even so there was so much good stuff. What was your favourite? Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 00:28 Magene Electronic Groupset 02:03 Magene Power Meter Pedals 02:31 SEKA Spear 04:18 PARDUS Gomera Evo TT Bike 05:05 PAR...
The Best Cycling Camera. Period. Insta360 X4 Deep-dive
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Insta360 X4: www.insta360.com/sal/x4?INRA1YI Headset Cap Mount: store.insta360.com/product/bike-headset-cap-mount?INRA1YI The Insta360 X4 is the latest and greatest 360 camera from Insta360. I really think a 360 camera is the best option for a cyclist because it gives you so many options to capture your ride, making videos of not only those around you, but videos of yourself. The new 8k resolut...
CHINA CYCLING at SEA OTTER: East meets West special.
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Sea Otter is a pretty rad experience. There's a bunch of mainstream media covering the boring stuff, so I try to find the things that have a bit of an east meets west theme. We have a German SRM power meter with Chinese Cybrei cranks crossover. We have multiple western brands in partnerships with Chinese factories, etc, etc. Things in the video: pandapodium.cc/ - Panda Podium: My website with a...
Does DEEPER mean FASTER? CRW CS6575 Aero Testing & Overview
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www.pandapodium.cc/product/crw-works-cs6575-disc-brake-wheelset/?ref=2 - The Wheels When CRW developed the CS6575 I thought they'd be an extreme option. Suitable only for 5-10% of people or 5-10% of race parcours. However, after trying them and doing some aero testing with them, its clear these aren't a once-in-a-bluemoon wheel, but a feasible every-day wheel for 20-30% of people, and a good wh...
NEW! L-TWOO eRX Blue Edition: What's new? Did they finally fix the issues?
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NEW! L-TWOO eRX Blue Edition: What's new? Did they finally fix the issues?
THEY CALLED THEIR BRAND WHAT?! Nice frame tho...
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THEY CALLED THEIR BRAND WHAT?! Nice frame tho...
TAIPEI BIKE SHOW DAY 3: Wheeltop EDS, Aero Base Layers, Carbon Cranks, Electric Mini Pumps and More!
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TAIPEI BIKE SHOW DAY 3: Wheeltop EDS, Aero Base Layers, Carbon Cranks, Electric Mini Pumps and More!
TAIPEI BIKE SHOW DAY 2: Updated L-Twoo ERX, Crazy Wheels, Superlight Bromptons...
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TAIPEI BIKE SHOW DAY 2: Updated L-Twoo ERX, Crazy Wheels, Superlight Bromptons...
TAIPEI BIKE SHOW DAY 1: New TCR, 3D Printed Saddles, Superlight wheels...
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TAIPEI BIKE SHOW DAY 1: New TCR, 3D Printed Saddles, Superlight wheels...
Where are Chinese Carbon Wheels made? FARSPORTS Factories Tour.
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Where are Chinese Carbon Wheels made? FARSPORTS Factories Tour.
Interview with Mae; Founder & Boss of FARSPORTS
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Interview with Mae; Founder & Boss of FARSPORTS
CRAZY CHINESE CRIT ON A GO-KART TRACK!
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CRAZY CHINESE CRIT ON A GO-KART TRACK!
The BEST Gravel Frameset in 2024? Voicevelo G Major
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The BEST Gravel Frameset in 2024? Voicevelo G Major
Tubeless Foam Inserts - Worth the effort?
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Tubeless Foam Inserts - Worth the effort?
Year in Review: 2023 Panda Podium Awards (CRW, Magene, Cybrei, OVERFAST, etc...)
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Year in Review: 2023 Panda Podium Awards (CRW, Magene, Cybrei, OVERFAST, etc...)
Forget about bone conduction? OLADANCE OWS Sports Vs SHOKZ Vs SUUNTO
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Forget about bone conduction? OLADANCE OWS Sports Vs SHOKZ Vs SUUNTO
MY 4.3kg HILL CLIMB BIKE - Function over form
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MY 4.3kg HILL CLIMB BIKE - Function over form
DJI Action Buyer's Guide (DJI Action 4, 3, 2 Vs GoPro Hero 12, 11) Action Camera Shootout!
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DJI Action Buyer's Guide (DJI Action 4, 3, 2 Vs GoPro Hero 12, 11) Action Camera Shootout!
CYBREI: Lightweight (but race ready) Carbon Components
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CYBREI: Lightweight (but race ready) Carbon Components
Behind The Brand: SERK Titanium
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Behind The Brand: SERK Titanium
Building a sub 6kg bike for sub $6k. Part 1 (REUPLOAD)
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Building a sub 6kg bike for sub $6k. Part 1 (REUPLOAD)
It's light, it's affordable... but how does it ride? Sub 6 for 6 Pt.ii
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It's light, it's affordable... but how does it ride? Sub 6 for 6 Pt.ii
Insta360 Ace Pro - When Action Cameras Start Doping 💉
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Insta360 Ace Pro - When Action Cameras Start Doping 💉

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @ohevisrael
    @ohevisrael 2 дні тому

    Do you sync with Garmin before you edit or afterwards?

  • @donquique1
    @donquique1 2 дні тому

    Lmao. How many in the tour. Zeeerooooooooo.

  • @MIHALMICHAEL
    @MIHALMICHAEL 3 дні тому

    I love the ending clip

  • @marioferrarello1632
    @marioferrarello1632 3 дні тому

    What so you think about JAVA. A friend just bought a “fuoco” model full carbon with 105 mechanical. Cost about 11k RMB in Shanghai. What do you think about Java brand ?

    • @mike1011mk
      @mike1011mk 2 дні тому

      I own a Fuoco.. It's 7.9kg with changed wheels + handlebar. It looks like the pro winning Merida Reacto. Bought it for 6,999 RMB local ($960) cause the logos are stealth. The thing flies and I drop many Bianchi, specialized.. All those $15,000 bike boys on the regular 😂

  • @plewka.74
    @plewka.74 5 днів тому

    Hi, where can I buy the magnetic angle adapter for cycling? I can`t find it… Please help me. Thanls + Greetings

  • @heribertfassbender5759
    @heribertfassbender5759 5 днів тому

    As long as someone is saying with a straight face “in the Tour de France OR EVEN LARGER EVENTS”, you know, that they don't have the understanding of the western cycling market.

  • @backuptimmy4124
    @backuptimmy4124 6 днів тому

    UCI legal?

  • @70svd
    @70svd 6 днів тому

    Looks cool price wise for a 105 is so so, I am interested to know whether Sava included South East Asia in their import tax paid already thanks

  • @williamko4751
    @williamko4751 6 днів тому

    That SAVA bike looking sweet

  • @williamko4751
    @williamko4751 6 днів тому

    Purchase Ridenow inner tube for $30, and you have a sub 8kg bike. I wish the host would mention it.

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 6 днів тому

      It's 8.8kg you tubed won't save 800g

    • @williamko4751
      @williamko4751 5 днів тому

      @@glennoc8585 you are right. However a pair of Ridenow saves over 200g for $30. Best upgrade.

  • @William24009
    @William24009 6 днів тому

    I like the looks!!

  • @simonf2220
    @simonf2220 7 днів тому

    Really helpful video, thanks for sharing.

  • @chadconley454
    @chadconley454 8 днів тому

    Any chance the 700x30 clearance rating is conservative? I'm interested, but pretty set on wanting my next frame to clear at least 700x32

  • @youtubechangemynamewhy
    @youtubechangemynamewhy 8 днів тому

    For the import tax : you can never believe what Chinese says, ( same goes with the bike itself)

  • @sc0or
    @sc0or 8 днів тому

    Chinese frame manufacturers are very modest in increasing wheelbase and stack for gravel frames (compared to track/aero). They add literally a 1cm and call that a "gravel frame". They don't care real requirements

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling 5 днів тому

      The guy who designed the frame has raced the Cape Epic multiple times and I'm sure could drop you on any trail. You're right that *most* brands here may just do that, but don't judge them all the same...

    • @sc0or
      @sc0or 5 днів тому

      @@ChinaCycling​​⁠To win a race and to be successful in a business are two different things ) This frame is short in all directions to be a gravel one. But it can be good in something else of course. If I would 30-40 cm shorter, and a landscape around would be more flat, I’ll definitely consider this frame. At least it’s manufactured and painted like a real thing )

    • @sc0or
      @sc0or 5 днів тому

      @@ChinaCycling By the way, if we take a look at a top 7 winners of number of US classical 500km gravel races, we ca find stack/reach ratio from 1.39 to 1.58, ht angle from 66 to 73, wheelbase from 1000 to 1150, chain stay from 415 to 435. This is an example of that to win a gravel race is a different thing to make a gravel bike ) Cheers.

  • @cthulpiss
    @cthulpiss 8 днів тому

    Can I use this one in gravel? What's maximum cassette sprocket it can use?

  • @randallsmith7885
    @randallsmith7885 8 днів тому

    Detailed report. Thank you. Would love to see you test the various ‘wavy wheels’. Loght Bicycle makes a few sizes of rims with side waves. As opposed to the Zipp and Cambridge waves.

  • @daovanduy1905
    @daovanduy1905 8 днів тому

    I am Vietnamese, right next to China. Previously, I bought a Sava MTB, advertised as a t800 carbon frame, when I got my hands on a Giant MTB, Orbea. I just realized that my Sava is as soft as noodles. You can squeeze it with your hands, causing the frame to become dented and too thin.

    • @daovanduy1905
      @daovanduy1905 8 днів тому

      Dental treatment costs more than buying a good bicycle😂😂😂

  • @musclelessfitness2045
    @musclelessfitness2045 8 днів тому

    Great review, you shill :P Just kidding Please get the dream maker and review it.

  • @momohmart
    @momohmart 8 днів тому

    Would you recommend the X4 (or upgrade to it) versus getting the Ace Pro -- for traveling, walking around?

  • @ShoyShoy1980
    @ShoyShoy1980 8 днів тому

    Hi Joe, what saddle bag have you got there? Looks nice and compact.

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling 5 днів тому

      Its the Attaquer one... not cheap, but suits my needs.

  • @cryptobond0079
    @cryptobond0079 8 днів тому

    Go China 👍👍 Keep Making Great Cycling Products, We All Appreciate The Quality and Most important Competitive prices.

  • @rostuchicken
    @rostuchicken 8 днів тому

    Do you know what the tire clearance is for the frame?

  • @zannovak2643
    @zannovak2643 9 днів тому

    Any good Chinese gravel bikes??

  • @davidcarino6500
    @davidcarino6500 9 днів тому

    I have a trek SLR and something like this no name. Its just slightly heavier and not as stiff. Is my trek worth 2-3 times more? Or warranty? For the average rider from my experience is NO. Remember for the price of my trek i can buy 2-3 of these!!!!!

  • @richarddevey2449
    @richarddevey2449 9 днів тому

    would you do a mountain bike chinese wheel comparison?

  • @telkmx
    @telkmx 9 днів тому

    On the website it says the shimano brakes are r7170 which are hydraulic but in the video you say mechanical

    • @ariffau
      @ariffau 9 днів тому

      Hydraulic braking. Mechanical shifting.

  • @misterzeusadventures6083
    @misterzeusadventures6083 9 днів тому

    Hi, Great video and very informative. Sorry for maybe beginner question, but I am just getting into these fun things with cycles. For the Garmin overlays with Insta360, is that with a special bike computer? Or with your Garmin watch? Do you have to use special Garmin devices on the bike? Like Garmin pedals or other sensors in addition to Garmin bike computer or Garmin watch? I often rent a bike when I travel at places and those rental bikes would not have any Garmin pedals and the likes. I guess I could add a Garmin bike computer or use a Garmin Watch. I noticed on your video you have RPM statistics for example also, so was wondering how you do that. Do you have a comparison on what data overlays Garmin could add versus a Apple Watch? I am mostly using Apple watch for walking, but guess it would also work for cycling... yet, if there was some advantage of using a Garmin bike computer (without dependencies of Garmin pedals and the likes) I might try that also. Anyways, thanks in advance for any advice.

  • @PeakTorque
    @PeakTorque 9 днів тому

    Bloody good value bike with great gearing. They will sell shit loads! Same handlebar to Yoeleo.

  • @FL0RI4NN
    @FL0RI4NN 9 днів тому

    Too expensive, but reduce price by 500$ otherwise useless ad video

  • @CrapKerouac
    @CrapKerouac 9 днів тому

    Will he sell his soul for a full Dura-ace bike?

  • @oktayuruncu1127
    @oktayuruncu1127 9 днів тому

    seems like the bottom stem spacer doesn't really belong to that frame..

  • @oktayuruncu1127
    @oktayuruncu1127 9 днів тому

    beter no music while talking

  • @mikkelhenriksen
    @mikkelhenriksen 9 днів тому

    Still waiting for L-twoo and wheeltop review

  • @dzezydzerk
    @dzezydzerk 9 днів тому

    3k for chinese frame is a bit crazy 😂

  • @hauglien
    @hauglien 9 днів тому

    If only they had 60 cm frames...

  • @csarswatches
    @csarswatches 9 днів тому

    I wish ride now came out with an ultralight affordable latex tube

  • @treyquattro
    @treyquattro 9 днів тому

    SAVA Brian

  • @daviddjerassi
    @daviddjerassi 9 днів тому

    Thanks Joe always an honest review no BS at $ 2100 wow a great price 8.7 kg stable ride not all over place love the review and video Thank you.

  • @wuzihuzi
    @wuzihuzi 9 днів тому

    Been looking at this for while, cool to see a video of it!

  • @savadeck
    @savadeck 9 днів тому

    Great review! Thanks Joe for letting us see the video and the real reviews from everyone, we will keep optimizing our pros and cons.😄

  • @Silidons91
    @Silidons91 9 днів тому

    Sava makes great bikes.

  • @kidShibuya
    @kidShibuya 9 днів тому

    Now starting their own brand? Now... for decades... But now... Ok bro.

  • @renegadeflyer2
    @renegadeflyer2 9 днів тому

    I have two problems with this frame. I would sooner have external cables around the steering tube, and an endurance frame would make me happy. Otherwise an interesting bike.

  • @ariffau
    @ariffau 9 днів тому

    For 350USD more, one can get a Canyon Ultimate. Same groupset, Conti GP 5000 in 28! no carbon wheels though but there’re CRWs up for sale at Panda Podium 👀

    • @telkmx
      @telkmx 9 днів тому

      Yeah the frame is probably better QC on the Canyon but who knows? But it has not fully internal routings, cheap dt swiss wheels like 200 the pair i think ? And the wheels are just way better on the SAVA being carbon but not even sure which wheels they are lol.. And sava is 12 speed. But then add the import fees so..

    • @ariffau
      @ariffau 9 днів тому

      @@telkmx yea, but Sava isn’t a Canyon though.

    • @telkmx
      @telkmx 9 днів тому

      @@ariffau what does this mean ? Plenty of videos of canyon frames being meh inside. Tho i'm sure the carbon is at least well arranged,,

    • @williamko4751
      @williamko4751 6 днів тому

      ​​@@telkmx that means he works for Canyon marketing department

  • @ariffau
    @ariffau 9 днів тому

    Nice paintjob this one. However, I’d like the green to be brighter. More neon-like.

  • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
    @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 9 днів тому

    I've seen the inside of some SAVA frames that looked miserably bad. I do hope this one is a great frame though. We need realistic bike prices. They obviously need to improve the quality of some things - like those seatpost bolts - absolutely needs to be stainless.

    • @williamko4751
      @williamko4751 6 днів тому

      I call you BS. How did you look inside 'some' SAVA frames? I call your post a hit job.

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 6 днів тому

      @@williamko4751 multiple videos on youtube. You can find them yourself easily. "hit job"? LOL. I'd love if all SAVAs were great. I want inexpensive frames

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 5 днів тому

      @@williamko4751 Hit job? That's funny. There a lot of videos you can easily find on UA-cam. I'd love if Sava frames are all great.

  • @fabianbv82
    @fabianbv82 9 днів тому

    Very interesting and well developed video. Thanks!

  • @Onigure
    @Onigure 9 днів тому

    Well, officially only Chinese brand bikes are ok for small people using XS or under 50. Good for me and my wallet.

  • @juaninsuasty
    @juaninsuasty 9 днів тому

    You have the link of the page XDS X-Lab RT9 560g Frame??